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8 – Do you write OCs? And if so, what do you do to make certain they're not Mary Sues, and if not, explain your thoughts on OCs.
We welcome your participation! There is no minimum or maximum requirements for your answers -- they can be as long or as short as you'd like. I will include my answer as a comment.
DAY TWO
DAY THREE
DAY FOUR
DAY FIVE
DAY SIX
DAY SEVEN
8 – Do you write OCs? And if so, what do you do to make certain they're not Mary Sues, and if not, explain your thoughts on OCs.
We welcome your participation! There is no minimum or maximum requirements for your answers -- they can be as long or as short as you'd like. I will include my answer as a comment.
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Date: 2011-09-08 06:02 am (UTC)Let's face it. Writing a canon character that has very limited canon information is essentially writing an OC. The way I write Pansy is the equivalent to writing an OC, really, especially back in the day when there was limited canon. I've written Theodore Nott and Zacharias Smith, and they, too, are like doing OCs, because only the very basic information is known about them (year, house, some family background). Astoria Malfoy counts as an OC, IMO. I don't think anyone should shy away from writing OCs. As for Mary Sue/Gary Stu, there's a ton of littmus tests out there that'll tell you if your OC is a Sue/Stu, and depending on how Sue'ed out your OC is, you tweak their characterization accordingly. Some of the littmus criteria is unfair, IMO, for example, having a very thin character. I wrote a very thin OC who is thin because she's homeless. Oh, but being homeless is also Sue criteria! Pretty much if anything strange or wrong is going on with your character, you can get called on the carpet for Mary Sue/Gary Stu, but if angst, woe, and despair are the greatest indicators of Sueville, where does that leave Harry Potter, hmm? Dude's a huge Stu on the littmus tests ;)
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Date: 2011-09-08 06:25 am (UTC)Any other time, I will stick to Canon Characters.
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Date: 2011-09-08 06:36 am (UTC)Fandom Meme: Day 8 - OCs
Date: 2011-09-08 07:47 am (UTC)- Shah Rukh Khan, real life person
- Byron Crabbe, OC brother of Vincent Crabbe
- Hollace Torwell, my OC stand-in Auror
- Aunt Timila, OC Muggle
- Jacob Fenwick, OC son of Benjy Fenwick (old OoP)
- Thomas McKinnon, OC son of Marlene McKinnon (old OoP)
- Nono Pepper, OC son of Octavius Pepper (killed by Death Eaters)
- Elliot Miller, OC wizard
Only Torwell and Aunt Timila are entirely made from scratch. I did a whole lot of research for writing Shah Rukh Khan, and while everything about his sexuality and magic is obviously made-up, minor details like his favourite cigarettes and his family background is fact. Aunt Timila runs an Indian restaurant, and her character came out of the research I did for Shah Rukh Khan. ;) Torwell may come closest to a Mary Sue (or rather: an author-insert) character. In "Friendly Advice" I made use of her deliberately to have my author standpoint represented in a story of conflicted morals.
It is funny how I seem to bind my OCs always to minor canon characters. With Fenwick, McKinnon and Pepper, I tried to extrapolate as much as possible from the little we know about their canon parents. Thus Nono Pepper's odd first name is my attempt to come up with a family tradition in the Pepper family to number their sons. Nono Pepper's son, then (if Nono is ever released from the Janus Thickney Ward) would be named Decimus.
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Date: 2011-09-09 03:05 am (UTC)I think it's fairly easy to make sure an OC isn't a Mary Sue, no matter what people say. All you have to do is make sure your OC makes mistakes. I tend to stick in stupid little thing (ie. Tripping over an object, forgetting to do the dishes, screwing up a spell) here and there to make them seem more natural.
Whenever I write OC's, I tend to make them girls. I don't really know why, although it's probably because I don't have a girl character in HP that I seriously love.
Also, OCs make great fillers, since your mind won't wander off in the wrong tangent if you know nothing about the OC.
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Date: 2011-09-09 04:49 am (UTC)I think Mary Sues are a complete opinion of the reader honestly. Each person will read the story differently and have different views of the story, and whether OC's are Mary Sues or not. So, usually when writing I don't even think on it. The only requirement of a character when I write is that he/she has a personality - quirks, traits, flaws. If by the end someone thinks that makes them a Mary Sue, so be it. I certainly didn't set out to make them a Mary Sue, but everyone's opinion differs.
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Date: 2011-09-09 01:02 pm (UTC)Having said that, I don't think I'd ever write a pairing that featured an OC, except in the background or as a past relationship.
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Date: 2011-09-11 07:21 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-09-11 08:46 pm (UTC)...I'll just focus on fandom.
I try very, very hard to write only canon characters, or characters which are rooted in canon. That said, as Julie says, when you have a canon character whose only mention is one line in one book - you're writing an OC. The was to avoid Mary-Sues is to try to root them in the canon as much as possible, and not make them a deus ex machina who saves the day out of nowhere.
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Date: 2011-09-13 04:18 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-09-26 11:47 am (UTC)